I made a few comments in regards to the Caner/Caner/White/Ascol debate. Truly it is incredible to me that Ergun has not specifically been called a liar. Rather the tone has been far more gentler. James White has simply referred to his statements as falsehoods.
Over and over James has been patient, a thing which I believe is in order for the man of God. Yet, I have not seen a serious call of repentance to this man for his sinful behavior in this matter (ie. his tone, demeanor, lying, and disregard for mutual respect for a man made in the image of God and, at this point a am careful to use the term fellow brother in Christ).
I posted a comment on the Founder's blog in light of this and it was removed by the administrator. Here is the comment.
Well, I finished reading the second set of emails from James' website and to be perfectly honest, and this is after serious consideration, it is obvious that you are dealing with someone who is openly sinning. That's right. I read over and over as James was bold, yet mild is simply stating that Ergun was promoting "falsehoods". How about plain out lying? Should we not call him to repentance for his lying and for his improper character? I mean, if "Christian Genltleman" is anything like what he is living, then, pray tell, what is a lost gentleman?
Remember the words of the apostle John, ""But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
I do not say this hastily, but Ergun Caner is a proud, arrogant man and his sin is all over him and apparent to everyone. It maybe that he is not yet fully converted.......I don't know, but it is apparent that he needs to hear the true gospel of grace and that may just happen in this debate.
So be encouraged brother. We will pray for you and ask God to grant Dr. Caner true repentance in this area.
Was that too harsh from their point of view? Seriously, the fact that men in the position that Dr. Caner occupies is held to a high standard or at least should be, not only in doctrine, but in character. He is to be above reproach. I also noticed that Nathan White's comments, which happened to be just above mine were also deleted. Maybe it's because he feels the same way. I would love to know what was said.
However, following my post was this comment by Sean:
We need to be careful about the speech on these postings. We do not have the right to question Dr. Caner's salvation. This is going too far. Let's heed James' warning in Chapter 3 about taming the tongue and seek to possibly correct a brother in love without making claims upon his eternal salvation. That is God's perogative alone, not ours.
Sorry Sean, but the Scripture speaks very clear to the manner in which Dr. Caner has conducted himself and seems unwilling to be corrected. Therefore, what am I to make of John's words in Revelation. Mind you, we are not talking about him lying and then repenting, we are talking about a pattern of it and it goes further.
Later on we were informed by Deb, who attends Liberty University that:
he prides himself on being popular with his students, and goes to enormous lengths to keep it that way. A friend of mine told me of a friend of his who hangs out with Dr. Caner outside of school, who was very impressed by the fact that he uses curse words on a regular basis, because it shows that he's not as "uptight" as some of the other professors. (Note: I do NOT condone the behavior of a Dean of a Seminary who has a potty mouth)
She said this in the context of speaking about Dr. Caner using the word "pimp" in addressing the issue of Dr. Falwell promoting the debate.
Again, what does this tell us concerning, not a novice in the faith, but a man who has been trained and professed faith in Christ? Does this look like being conformed to the image of Christ? I am not his judge and thankfully he is not mine, but honestly, someone should hold the keys of the kingdom before him and administer some discipline, if nothing else. So much for it being a good thing that TRBC is in the SBC.
In the end, I think I was merely saying what everyone else is thinking:)