tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10254510.post114281110188139902..comments2023-10-18T09:43:35.751-05:00Comments on Clay-Pot: A Blog by Tim Brown: Thoughts Regarding Matthew 12:22-37Timhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07501824179760999458noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10254510.post-1143170358690697552006-03-23T22:19:00.000-05:002006-03-23T22:19:00.000-05:00TimYou said:"I wondered if anyone really thought t...Tim<BR/>You said:<BR/><BR/>"I wondered if anyone really thought there would be forgiveness given after death"<BR/><BR/>That is an interesting statement when applied to the "this age or the next". I suppose it is possible that to them the 'next' wasn't really the consummated kingdom as we look forward too, rather it was the re-establishment of the Throne of David in physical Jerusalem. With the Nations coming and going to and from the Mountain of God for their healing. To them, this age to come was the Messianic age of Israel's unmatched bliss. I would agree, only applying Paul's theology of the 'True Israel" of God as recipients of the blessing of Immanuel and Christ's kingdom being sovereign over ALL as the Earth is His footstool! Amen!<BR/><BR/>In this sense I suppose it would be possible (in their minds) for their forgiveness in the 'age to come'.(sounds a little familiar) <BR/>That is, looking for a renewed Jerusalem super power as they are delivered from the Nations.(as opposed as TOO the Nations as servants)<BR/><BR/>Maybe this is why Jesus spoke so harshly about the judgment after death, trying to sway their theology some. <BR/><BR/>BUT, please do not take this as dogmatic!! Only some thoughts to add to our conversation.<BR/>Gotta run........<BR/><BR/>Lord blessHankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10008948836515501951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10254510.post-1143158651581056172006-03-23T19:04:00.000-05:002006-03-23T19:04:00.000-05:00Thanks Hank,I agree. Clearly, when I went through...Thanks Hank,<BR/><BR/>I agree. Clearly, when I went through Daniel I saw the last days as relevant to the time of Messiah and the fulfillment of the 70 weeks of Daniel. Besides that, I wondered if anyone really thought there would be forgiveness given after death. Obviously not. Therefore, I tend to agree with you. I guess I kind of botched it on the end there:) Thanks for the encouragement.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07501824179760999458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10254510.post-1143155536105608752006-03-23T18:12:00.000-05:002006-03-23T18:12:00.000-05:00TimNice article. I must not have scrolled down far...Tim<BR/><BR/>Nice article. I must not have scrolled down far enough the other day when I checked for your post.<BR/><BR/> I think the simple term used "Beelzebub" and its meaning, "lord of the house" fits rather neat exegetically with your conclusions of the identity of the strong man. Ultimately, "Head of demons" as the "Lord of the house" within the confines of Jesus' parable gives us a clear view of the intended meaning.<BR/><BR/>Also, it is so important that we not forget the Jewish idea of the messiah and the physicality and narrowness of His reign as King. It seems inherently easy for us to fall into the same error. Sometimes I think we as the church are making similar mistakes. Anyway, here we have the central fulfillment of the greatest blessing of the covenant. Both, all or in an over arching sense, THE covenant, is in fact God dwelling with His people. Here in this text you see Immanuel beginning the consummation of this superior blessing in a way foreign to the Jewish mindset. <BR/><BR/>I liked your analysis of the unpardonable sin. These men, handing over this incarnate fulfillment of the whole purpose for their (Israel's) existence to pagans, were in fact committing the most heinous sin known to mankind. Tearing their clothes as they pronounce Jesus a blasphemer, both here and as He is before the High Priest describing Himself as the very One Daniel had spoke of. Ultimately, they spit in the very face of God as they declare before the entire world, "We have no King but Cesar!"<BR/><BR/>As for the age and the age to come, I vote for Joel's pronouncement of the "Last days", verified by Pentecost ending with the dismantling of sacrificial system in AD 70. Thus making our day, "The age to come" in their day! If not, and we are still living out these days, we end up with the "Last days"[of the age] or the "End of the Age" actually being longer than the "Age" itself!<BR/><BR/> Now that’s confusing!! <BR/><BR/>Have a good weekend<BR/>Lord blessHankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10008948836515501951noreply@blogger.com